Comolli Caught Telling Porkies

Sunday, 05 October 08, 09:07 PM · Posted by HarryHotspur

 

This from Benny Blanco, a reliable and credible poster on Spurs Odious...

"I was staying in the same hotel as the Spurs team in Krakow and spoke to Comolli. He said that Huntelaar was never coming as he wanted to stay at Ajax and that Arshavin was not on for January as the Russians did not want to sell. He described the transfer window as 'hell'."

This is at best, spin. 

What I do know is that the initial price for Arshavin was €25 million. That was from the mouth of the Director of ZSP, so the idea that the Russians didn't want to vend is cobblers.

There were then numerous tales in the press since that price - describing the frustrations in the deal from both ZSP and Arshavin's agent.

But no remote hint that the player was off limits. Shame on you Damien.

Or is this your way of saying that the Russians didn't want to suffer the silly low offer and the painful negotiations from there on in you threw at them? If so, say so. You took a dogs age to bank the money from the sale of our best players and left us with a team that appears not to work very well.

You're the Director of Football. Increasingly there is a queue forming of good folk who like to read your forthcoming book, 'Would You Like To Know What The F*ck I Did Last Summer?'.



 

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ToniMontana
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1. ToniMontana Wrote: | 21.22BST | Oct 5, 2008

Lets hope its not true, we need Arshavin badly. Get that fucking Comolli out now!

name
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2. name Wrote: | 21.25BST | Oct 5, 2008

My cousin's friend's workmate knows someone who spoke to Comolli and he said that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet

Nah, can't be true

Crafzman
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3. Crafzman Wrote: | 21.29BST | Oct 5, 2008

Give us some strikers and end this misery

onedavemackay
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4. onedavemackay Wrote: | 21.29BST | Oct 5, 2008

This may well be true but even if it isn't Commolli has demonstrated well beyond reasonable doubt that he's crap at his job. Or have we replaced our dear departed trio of top class strikers and signed the DM and left midfielder that Ramos and Jol before him, both asked for ?

Anthony
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5. Anthony Wrote: | 21.41BST | Oct 5, 2008

sack comolli sack ramos bring back jol and forget this russian partnership I dont want 2 Rebrovs. No Defoe, No Berba and No Keane, what is going on

McG
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6. McG Wrote: | 21.57BST | Oct 5, 2008

Cockmolli out, Ronaldo in please...

Ginge1
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7. Ginge1 Wrote: | 21.58BST | Oct 5, 2008

Following on from today's events I am speechless................... :\

charlie the cockerel
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8. charlie the cockerel Wrote: | 22.01BST | Oct 5, 2008

you know what Harry, right now I am so disgusted by Levy AND Commoli, that I am almost lost for words.

Levy has put profit before progress, and now seems to be set for his big payday, at the expense of any progress at the club since he took over the helm.

Commolli has earned paycheck after paycheck and delivered a group of average players, many of whom we have sold for a loss, and then this window he has brought in players that cant even play together.

In all of this mess, Juande Ramos is catching flak that he doesnt deserve from fans, and the press, and with no statement forthcoming from the usually very vocal Little Levy, I would not be suprised if he decided to walk.

How the hell can Commolli still be at the club, when he delivered nothiing this window and no one at the club has had the balls to apologise to the fans, who have now turned on Ramos.

Levy, you are ruining this once proud club, we are now a laughing stock in the PL.

In my humbe opinion, if Levy sells the club, and takes Comolli with him, then I would leave Ramos to manage the next trasnfer window, bringing in the palyers that he wants, and se what happens..


I fo one am sure we will not go down, and feankly do not even want to contemplate a future without Ramos or Poyet, as frankly there isnt one.

PATIENCE IS THE WORD ALL REAL SPURS FANS NEED TO USE.

FICKLE MINDED FANS CAN CONTINUE TO ASK FOR SOMEONES HEAD, JUST MAKE SURE IT IS LEVY OR COMMOLLIS AND NOT RAMOS'.

hermz111
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9. hermz111 Wrote: | 22.08BST | Oct 5, 2008

letting go of ramos would be a mistake! get comedy out and let ramos and poyet get on with signing some quality players in january! as phil brown said today it's only the players who are gunna get us out of this mess! so it's time they stepped up! and as for the booing of woodgate today thats pathetic! he's been the only one to show some balls this season!

CHARLIE THE COCKEREL
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10. CHARLIE THE COCKEREL Wrote: | 22.15BST | Oct 5, 2008

BY THE WAY WHERE IS OUR CAPTAIN, WHERE IS THE VOICE ON THE PITCH??

I DONT KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH KING, BUT POUR SOME GOLD OVER HIM AND MAKE HIM A STATUE AS HE IS NOT A FOOTBALL PLAYER ANYMORE. PLAYING 50% OF GAMES DOES NOT A SOLID DEFENSIVE PARTNERSHIP MAKE.....GET CORLUKA AND WOODY TO FORM THE BACKBONE OF THE DEFENCE AND LETS GET IT ON...

TO ALL THE FANS THAT BOOED THE PLAYERS TODAY - THANKS FOR SHOWING HOW TO SUPPORT YOUR TEAM AND INSTILL CONFIDENCE..

TMWNN
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11. TMWNN Wrote: | 22.59BST | Oct 5, 2008

The PSB money should have been handed straight to Zenit.

If Levy didn't want to pay for his replacement, then why did he let him go?

What with the the lack of other crucial positions filled and our current situation, Comolli's job is of course now completely untenable. Levy's decisions are also more than questionable and a massive question mark also hovers above Ramos.

As for today, defence and midfield were better, final third was not good, but fortune, as is often the case when things are bad, was not with us.

The effort was there, I'm no way a 'Jenas lover', but I thought he was our best player in the first half. Modric never shied away from wanting the ball andthe more he plays I think the better he'll become.

No, not a lack of effort today, more of a lack of ability in positions where second best won't be enough (mainly a DM leader and at least one top striker).

Whether we can turn it around with the current regime before things become too desperate (relegation isn't an option nowadays) remains to be seen.

Bimmi
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12. Bimmi Wrote: | 23.07BST | Oct 5, 2008

look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..

here's my notes..

GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..

GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..

WOODY: (10)
install as captain, King is finished..

CORLUKA: (7)
is quite clearly a better CB than RB.. which was a pleasant surprise..

BALE: (5.5)
the epidemic of "can't cross the ball" is spreading.. Bale needs to be dropped for the Stoke game.. the boy is quality but he has now played 15 Premier League games since joining Tottenham and in those 15 games we have won none of them.. his fault?? quite clearly not.. but is he cursed??

LENNON: (6)
"One Aaron Lennon" cried the Spurs fans upon his substitution.. it's time some people realised that there's a difference between looking dangerous and actually being dangerous.. he was by no means terrible though..

JENAS: (5)
improvement on Thursday in that he worked hard but still patently not good enough..

ZOKORA: (1)
getting ridiculous now..

MODRIC: (6)
finally got on the ball more than usual but then tried stupid flicks that never come off.. still waiting for him to click.. it'll be special when he does..

CAMERON DIAZ: (0)
not on long enough.. and he's injured now.. luckily we have plenty of quality up front.. oh wait..

C*MPBELL: (6)
tried his best.. can't ask much more.. maybe a goal would be nice..

BENT: (0)
insert your own derogatory statement here..

BENTLEY: (6)
starting to annoy me.. i don't even know why..

GIO: (3)
i was crying out for his introduction but he disappointed when he came on..

ANY FANS WHO BOOD AT ANY STAGE: (0)
idiots..

ANY FANS WHO THINK RAMOS SHOULD GO: (0)
more of the same..

Arsene
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13. Arsene Wrote: | 23.10BST | Oct 5, 2008

Well done agent Commolli.
Your mission is nearly over.

Regards
Arsene

HenryPercy
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14. HenryPercy Wrote: | 23.38BST | Oct 5, 2008

Reply to Bimmi:

look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..

here's my notes..

GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..

GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..

WOODY: (10)...

I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.

Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele" Doherty.

I'm fed up with all these fucking do-gooders who come on here and say don't boo.... do you pay 900 of your hard earned pounds plus another £50 per game on travel?

I certainly don't cough that money up to watch Jenas and co strolling around the pitch....

Carrier bag face tomorrow!

Phil
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15. Phil Wrote: | 00.17BST | Oct 6, 2008

Why do we need a sporting director?

We created this post for Arnesen to find us some quality youth players. He had a proven track record. Comolli was never qualified for the position.

Could you see Redknapp or O'Neill working with a sporting director above them? Redknapp walked out of Pompey last time for that reason. Keegan has basically just done the same thing at Newcastle.

I would prefer it if our manager was making the call on players he wanted in, that way we could judge him on his signings as well as tactics.

Bimmi
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16. Bimmi Wrote: | 00.18BST | Oct 6, 2008

by all means be disgruntled but booing don't help..

unless it's aimed at Comolli.

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17. Finn Wrote: | 00.28BST | Oct 6, 2008

If ever there was a phrase which categorized the Spurs supporter it would be "if we just do this....". We are and have always been believers in the universal panacea: "if we just get Venables/Hoddle/Klinsman/Arshavin.....we'll be OK". Unfortunately our problems are considerably more complex than can be achieved by just one man with a spare 15-20 minutes. It is equally fair to say tho' that the responsibility lies with the men at the top, the decisions they make and the consequences of those decisions: short, medium and long term.

Take for instance our chairman's willingness to take money from other clubs as payment for them shagging us in the arse. It started with Arnensen, then Carrick and the Keane and Berbatov saga was both consequential and inevitable. If Modric turns out to be the new Maradonna, he'll be gone. The papers will set it up and our weakness for folding stuff will do the rest. Aston Villa on the other hand dug their feet in and said "No, we have a contract and you'll honour it". There will be few players at Villa who will now become either targets or not fully understand their contractual obligations.

Will Levy learn? I think not. I do admire his passion for the club, but he's not strong enough as a manager to make a stand and there are times that you have to regardless of cost. I have suspected that Comolli and some board members cajoled Levy into complicity in the Jol/Ramos circus; he appeared unwilling but was the instrument of the board, but perhaps I give him too much credit. Of course his other major mistake was hiring Comolli, a man who has proved to have the Midas touch but with shit instead of gold.

Comolli must go now both to appease the mob and at least stop some of the rot. We all know his shortcomings and Martin Jol’s comments about the continuity aspects of a DoF that involves wholesale change, as we have witnessed this summer, have a certain poignancy.

Continued in part 2..........

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18. Finn Wrote: | 00.29BST | Oct 6, 2008

Part 2

The support we are giving Ramos (by & large) whose track record is a cup (won with Jol's now dismantled squad) and almost nothing else. It stands in stark contrast to the baying for Jol's head who had not only made us top five twice but had restored faith and belief.

Ramos is not the innocent party here. Jol fell out with Comolli in part because he fought for the players he wanted and it was not hard to read between the lines of what he thought he was being given. Ramos does not appear to have done this to anywhere near the same extent and certainly not to the extent he should have. Once again we go into the fray with glaring holes in our ranks, the same glaring holes we have had for years, plus of course new ones in the striker department.

Ramos should have managed upwards better. He should have dug his heels in for what he wanted, however judging by his team selection I am not sure that he knows what he wants and I worry that HE is the Rebrov we all fear getting again.

We have to persevere with him now though especially after the manner of his courtship and appointment; I believe I’d not be alone in now identifying this as the clubs biggest mistake and greatest shame.

So where now other than down?

Knee jerk reactions and sackings aside (other than Comolli who MUST go), we do need change. The idea that it’s OK, its coming together and getting better slowly, will inevitably see us relegated.

Change is necessary right now and the DoF is now a key and pivotal position to be filled by someone with the wisdom to help us out of the current plight and do what must be done in the Christmas sales. But talk of Villa or Huntelaar or maybe even Arshavin can go…….players we need now are those who will keep us in the EPL. Players we would love to see will not come to a club in our league position; this is no long a transition season but a survival season with the possibility of a transition if we’re lucky!

billybigspud
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19. billybigspud Wrote: | 00.39BST | Oct 6, 2008

Reply to HenryPercy:

Reply to Bimmi:

look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..

here's my notes..

GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..

GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..

WOODY: (10)...

I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.

Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...

dance monkey dance. do you seriously think any of us are happy about the state we're in?. some of us are just a little bit more grown up about it. you want the team to stand up and be counted, but you're not prepared to do the same.
i've a feeling that carrier bag face is a regular thing in your house. :\

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20. BruceCastle Wrote: | 00.52BST | Oct 6, 2008

We've all had too much of the quack-comolli.
I feel sick. This is a fucking nightmare :\ :\ :\ :\ :\

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21. peterridsdale Wrote: | 00.57BST | Oct 6, 2008

Harold,
I ain't a fan of DC as his track record is abysmal at best. But in this regard, you need to implicate Levy. All the circumstantial evidence leads to the conclusion that Levy controls all the wonga and so any mucking around over the fee with the Russians, and the delay in selling the Bulgarian until Man Ure paid over 30 big ones, is entirely down to Levy. DC is not a real DoF but is merely an adviser to Levy. The screw-up at the end of the transfer window was entirely due to Levy being a business man rather than a football man.

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22. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 01.54BST | Oct 6, 2008

Bollo was right. We probably won't see a more stunning free kick all season. Did one of the scouts say "You should take a closer look at that Geovanni... and DC thought he meant Giovani?" Maybe that explains why he wielded his own axe this past week... but anyway, as free agent acquisitions go, you'll not find many better than Geovanni.

We truly have f*cked about in the window. Not because we bought utter tripe, but because of who we bought and when, and how our business was conducted. It is noted how many here are defending Ramos' position. I actually too believe he should be given more time. But I like to play devil's advocate from time to time, so here we go. I made mention in a previous post during the window, that Jamiespurs was incorrect to state that Ramos gave Diego Capel his first start at Sevilla and made him the player he is today (or words to the effect - don't get paranoid JS, I'm simply making a point). I did say that this was not actually the case, Sevilla had a good youth/nurturing sytem in place before Ramos' arrival there, and Capel had already played for the first team prior to Ramos' tenure at the club. In fact Sevilla's academy is renowned in Spain for it's excellence when it comes to bringing talent through, and it has done so for many years now. What Ramos did with Sevilla on paper at least is admirable. However, if you look at his managerial record prior to his spell in Sevilla, it is largely uninspiring.

Which leads me to pose the question? Was Ramos actually a key difference maker at Sevilla, or was he simply good enough to steer a ship that was in already in good order, one that was being maintained and run efficiently from top to bottom?

Let's face it, with Comolli directing the operation our ship has a few gaping holes in it, and we're sinking with it. I concede it's not exactly all Ramos' fault here - but I'm not sure if he's the man to keep us afloat, either. We're short on strikers so we loan out Peckhart? Stroke of genius.

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23. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 01.58BST | Oct 6, 2008

Pavlyuchenko. Yeah, he's been on the go since March. It's hard to expect him to slot in and perform 7 months into his own private season. Bent? Well, IMO he should be playing, and Pav should be resting. Bent needs to play to get some confidence. In the meantime we're still not winning when we drop him, are we? And Fraizer Campbell? How short term solution can you get? We are just assisting Manure in developing their player, right?

Comolli out. For sure. His head rolls before anyone elses does.

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24. DoubleVision Wrote: | 04.51BST | Oct 6, 2008

Nicely put fatknacker. HP is clearly one of our less educated/experienced brethren... HP i'm sure your girl/boy friend or wife would really get you performing if they booed you due your sexual performance being below par... we are called supporters not detractors, we support, thats what we do. You are part of the club... what next do we want the players booing each other, thats ultimately where your sick attitude leads!!! Now grow up please!

wayne
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25. wayne Wrote: | 09.31BST | Oct 6, 2008

Right I have been doing a lot of thinking since yesterday, I have had a lot of things on my mind and listening to talk sport did not help as i ended up throwing the radio at the wall and breaking it, listening to very fickle spurs fans calling in, yes i do have anger management issues.

The first point (not most important thing, but really annoying me the most)

DEFOE (this is when radio hit the wall, so many fans bringing this up)- why is so many people saying we shouldn’t have sold him?? In hindsight yes, we shouldn’t have but when we did he was 4th choice striker!! He was never going to replace berba + keane. In the premier league, how can you keep someone of his quality happy sitting on the bench? He is a good player but when we sold him he wouldn’t have started! So will people wake up and realise we had little choice but to sell!!

Ramos - People are starting to question him, yes myself included, I do believe in him but no matter how good you are after the start we have had no matter how good you are, you will be questioned. I do think he is great and will take time to get adjusted, but we cannot keep saying this - we have only 2 points next 4 matches are crucial - there are some real hard matches and we need to grind out victories. Mysterious Stranger - how can you not give credit to Ramos for the job he did at Sevila - does that mean just cause Jose had money at Chelsea he doesn’t get any credit? He did brilliant with Sevilla - yes they had a great youth team - but he still had to bring them into the 1st team and nurture them. You also said about his managerial record - it actually is very good - if you delve a little deeper you will find out that he actually improved every team he managed (except Espanyol, 5 games, not enough) Is he the man - in short yes if he is given time, will he though, that is a different story. You need to look at what happens if he goes. IMO I believe that Poyet will be the next manager (Jol situation)

wayne
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26. wayne Wrote: | 09.32BST | Oct 6, 2008

that’s why he turned down Newcastle, why else would a number 2 turn down a big job like that. Yes Newcastle are in a bit of a mess but once Newcastle are sold (1-2 months) that is most of the problem sorted – so why did Poyet turn it down?? Because he is next on line – so anybody that is critising Ramos – think about it – before saying get rid of him – I’m not saying Poyet would not be a good manager for us – but how much say is he getting tactics/substitutions if it is a lot, why get rid of Ramos and replace him with Poyet.

Levy – Okay, to you and most other Spurs fans this is out life, this is our club, we would do anything for spurs – we want the best and demand the best. Levy has done great job for this club – however he is running it like a business – which he has a right to do as we are a business – we do not have a mega rich owner who can throw money for the sake of it – and until that day Spurs have to be run like a business. If some mega rich owner wanted to buy the club Levy would sell – but this has not happened yet. He has made a considerable amount of money available for transfers. So for that I acknowledge, obviously we would like more, but we always want more. He has also got some good deals for players Berba + Keane, see next point. To finish with Levy he has done a great job for this club and needs to be backed until we get/if we get a mega rich owner.

Berba/Keane – How fickle are fans? People saying we shouldn’t have sold? Did we have a choice?????? I would have loved them to have stayed – if we had them we would not be bottom table. Berba – wanted to leave he didn’t want to wear the shirt – do people think Ramos/Comolli/Levy just said sell him and didn’t try to persuade him to stay – NO he wanted to leave. Which is why we sold him for 30 mill + Fraz on loan – again Levy could have done it quicker but we wouldn’t have got as much – again see previous Tottenham is a business.

wayne
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27. wayne Wrote: | 09.35BST | Oct 6, 2008

Keane same type of story – however I thought Keane would have had more loyality – he didn’t and wanted to go – s we had to sell and again 20 mill was a good deal for ourselves. In short if players don’t want to play for our beloved tottenham – they can go, no matter who they are! So don’t say try and get them to stay – that has obviously happened but they didn’t want to – so we had no choice but to sell.

Final Point Comolli

This is the big point as I am so divided about him – I believe he has brought some great players to the club but also some poor acquisitions. Lets look at his signings

Esokotto – 3.5 mill – to be honest has not played enough matches (injuries etc.) at the moment maybe not worth 3.5 but he is not a terrible player and is still young.
Zokora – 8.6 mill – not good enough for that type of money – at the time thought he would be great but not premiership class.
Berba – 10.6mill – Great signing – trebled in value.
Pekhart – free – def great for free- can make money – could turn out good.
Mido – undis – not a bad signing – made money on him
Malbranque – 2mill – not bad signing – made money on him
Chimbonda – 4.5 – not bad signing – never lost any money on him
Rocha – 3.2 – Poor signing
Taarabt – undis – Could be good – wont loose any money on him – needs first team action

Bale – 5mill – bargain – will be a great signing.
Bent 16.5 mill – too much money for an average prem striker.
Kaboul 8 mill – not proved his value – sold for 5 mill
Boateng – 5.4 mill – waste of money
Gunter – 3mill – early days – but 3 mill reasonable price for some1 his age
Woodgate 8 mill – reasonable value – good signing
Hutton 9 mill – good signing – be great right back- missed him
Gilberto – 1.9 mill – poor siging however if we sell him – wont make a big loss- if a loss.

wayne