The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

Never gave the Hughes story any credence anyway. Then again, not much at Spurs would surprise.

I'd have to say that, were Ramos to be sacked, it would surely signal the end of Comolli. Wasn't it his bright idea to recruit Ramos in the first place? He has a lot riding on his Spanish horse. Were Comolli to remain if Ramos left, then we might as well assume that not even a hurricane would shift him.

Not that I'm blaming Comolli in particular. The blame can be attributed to many individuals, in varying degrees. But spreading it unilaterally across the whole club like horse-sh1t only fertilises resentment among those who are slogging their guts our for the cause, despite their efforts amounting to very little.

We look for a pill that will be a solve-all our several sicknesses. Dismissing Comolli isn't necessarily that pill. It might be a good medicine to start with, but it won’t cure the malaise between the coaching methods and the players' ability to deliver good performances. What tincture do we need for that?

Culpability among the players, too, is as variable in degree as it is over the club. A blame-culture offers little by way of a productive outcome, but individual errors must be identified and corrected. This is when you would hope the discriminative faculties of the board and coaching staff are proved worthy. Then, by positive critique, rather than negative criticism, you might see beneficial results.

People talk about work-rate in some players, but that by itself isn’t enough. What does it matter that Jenas can run all day (when he can be arsed) if, like Sisyphus, he rolls the stone up the hill, only for it to roll back down again? Some players just aren’t good enough. We’re still reasonably lucky that there’s a circus up in the north-east providing hilarity to all, else we’d be the butt of every joke.

The objective was to qualify - achieved unlike the scousers. This team played with confidence pre-season and my only doubt about Ramos is that the team keeps changing too much.

zokora had a couple of decent moments. what worried me the mos was King and Woodgate - they are meant to be our number 1 defensive pair. shocking lack of communication for their goal...

I wonder if Woodgate's under-par performance is on account of him having no fixed partner. It can't be easy forging a relationship with King every four games, Dawson every three, Huddlestone every two. Or maybe the sickness has got to him, like it has everyone else at the club.

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The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

I recommend it to non-spurs supporting insomniacs.

Stay away if you are a Spurs fan of any disposition. If you're depressed DO NOT WATCH under any circumstances. It will only make things worse.

Gomes - Good. Actually beyond good, I'd say fantastic.

Modric - Think he should of stayed on and was starting to look composed and capable of pulling the strings. Why was he subbed?

King - Beginning to run like he's treading water, surely the knees are on the verge of going.

Bale - This time last year he was the bright young thing. Why is he making things look so damn hard. (probably because he's being asked to play 2-3 positions a game!)

JJ - has lived of the Old Trafford free kick for long enough. His set piece delivery was atrocious. He couldn't even deliver my milk! - Probably his worst game in a Spurs shirt.

FC & Bent - Tried hard to get involved. Doesn't help when the midfield is nothing short of useless and unable to supply half decent crosses and balls to them.

Lennon - ONE good cross against Newcastle. Normal Lennon service was resumed yesterday. Please someone get him to pracitice his crossing.

To top it all off, it appears that Ramos is feeling confident enough to field reserves and second stringers against Hull. A poor performance and a loss on Sunday and I think Levy will get out his gun and head off to Ramos' office.

Also, to put things in perspective, Barcelona lost here in a Chumpions League qualifier so give Spurs a break guys!!

I don't think there's any chance we could get Mark Hughes, but we could possibly get Steve Coppell. Then all we'd need is Heskey in the transfer window, and we'd be sorted.

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Also, to put things in perspective, Barcelona lost here in a Chumpions League qualifier so give Spurs a break guys!!

Barca were 4-0 up after the first leg. Job done in their eyes.

Spurs NEEDED to win that game last night and they struggled. I'm actually getting to the point of anger about Spurs. I've tried to stay philosophical about things but I am running out of patience.

Something has to happen.

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I wonder if Woodgate's under-par performance is on account of him having no fixed partner. It can't be easy forging a relationship with King every four games, Dawson every three, Huddlestone every two. Or maybe the sickness has got to him, like it has everyone else at the club.

Wholeheartedly agree. Medic! Man Down!

sadly it seems like some of us are expecting a meal from Petrus when all that we own is a kebab shop. we were deluding ourselves and the reality is a bitter pill. a revision of the teams capabilities is overdue

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The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

The floggings will continue until morale improves

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The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

The floggings will continue until morale improves

I look forward to the rapidshare files of the '87 Cup Final

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The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

I recommend it to non-spurs supporting insomniacs.

Stay away if you are a Spurs fan of any disposition. If you're depressed DO NOT WATCH under any circumstances. It will only make things worse.

Gomes - Good. Actually beyond good, I'd say fantastic.

Modric...

"ONE good cross against Newcastle. Normal Lennon service was resumed yesterday. Please someone get him to pracitice his crossing."

Absolutely. How many hours a week are these clowns training? Are they working on his headers or goal kicks? He should spend 80% of his time practising beating 27 people and delivering kiler crosses.

The 'final ball' conversation in relation to this guy has become a joke.

It's like complaining endlessly there's no plates in McDonalds. Vaguely funny once but then just a tired statement of fact really not worth the bother of repeating.

Hi Guys, i think Ramos's time is up, Tottenham as we know it is a Business, we all work for a living in businesses. So let's take our football heads off one moment and put ourselves in a business world, to assess the merits of what the Board must be thinking. You employ a manager with a great reputation, brought in on a huge contract to win games, your confidence in him is sky high even though he cant speak the language, in his first season he sets about dismantling a previously successful team, but we still have faith, even if results are mixed, and then climatically a huge high, he leads us to a Cup victory, our first for 10 years or so, he's a messiah, after that nothing left to play for in the league, so even though results are dreadful, we cut him some slack, as next season he will have learnt the language and brought his own players. Pre Season, he buys loads of new players, changing effectively the whole team, and system, now it's his own team, when the new season starts we perform abysmally, the manager still cant speak the language very well, and has taken the club massively backwards, he's still on his fat contract, and we sit rooted to the bottom of the league. The football we are playing is terrible, for a glamour club like Spurs, meaning punters may not come, also all those buyers we were seeking out to purchase a club with a high stock, surely they dont want to be buying a championship team! That can cause a business to think trigger happy, and usually for me when the press have a story whether it's mark hughes, or berbatove, there's an element of truth in it...Welcome thoughts, just wanted to try and look at this from a business perspective, which is how i think our board works unfortunately for the football side.

On a completely different issue, do you think that the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, looks like this in Total Recall?
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Reply to MysteriousStranger:

The whole game Harry? You're really spoiling us

I recommend it to non-spurs supporting insomniacs.

Stay away if you are a Spurs fan of any disposition. If you're depressed DO NOT WATCH under any circumstances. It will only make things worse.

Gomes - Good. Actually beyond good, I'd say fantastic.

Modric...

"ONE good cross against Newcastle. Normal Lennon service was resumed yesterday. Please someone get him to pracitice his crossing."

Absolutely. How many hours a week are these clowns training? Are they working on his headers or goal kicks? He should spend 80% of his time practising...

Thats the problem though HH. It IS a joke?

The point is how and why have we not seen any improvement in his delivery? What is going on in training that we have a winger who can't cross a football.

I will not bring the point up again in the future. I just think its unfair that the strikers get branded as'useless' when they have no decent delivery.

Apologies for rasing the lennon / final ball debate.

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I wonder if Woodgate's under-par performance is on account of him having no fixed partner. It can't be easy forging a relationship with King every four games, Dawson every three, Huddlestone every two. Or maybe the sickness has got to him, like it has everyone else at the club.

Wholeheartedly agree. Medic! Man Down!

Harry, King is not getting any younger or better, apart from fitness issues. Pastures can be quite pleasant, I've heard. They're nice and green, there's ample time to lie in the sun and chew the cud as and when.

In a funny sort of why, I see the King issue as fairly core with what's wrong with the club. No one is suggesting he clear his locker and leave the premises, but you can't boss the fulcrum of defence on a part-time basis. It seems a peculiarly Spurs way to run a club.

what worries me about ramos is all his bold substitutions last season came off and we all thought he was a tactical genius this season his team selection and substitutions have been bewildering, just suppose he was lucky last season and were seeing the real wendy now, then we are in deep shit

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Also, to put things in perspective, Barcelona lost here in a Chumpions League qualifier so give Spurs a break guys!!

Barca were 4-0 up after the first leg. Job done in their eyes.

Spurs NEEDED to win that game last night and they struggled. I'm actually getting to the point of anger about Spurs. I've tried to stay philosophical about things but I am running out of patience.

Something...

But we got through, it's not great but at least we got through to the draw. Understand your frustration, but that was a tough game for most teams. Pitch was poor and not an easy place to go when your confidence is poor.
I think we need to look at yesterday as positive rather than another negative.

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I wonder if Woodgate's under-par performance is on account of him having no fixed partner. It can't be easy forging a relationship with King every four games, Dawson every three, Huddlestone every two. Or maybe the sickness has got to him, like it has everyone else at the club.

Wholeheartedly agree. Medic! Man Down!

Harry, King is not getting any younger or better, apart from fitness issues. Pastures can be quite pleasant, I've heard. They're nice and green, there's ample time to lie in the sun and chew the cud as and when.

In a funny sort of why, I see the King issue as fairly core with what's...

I suggested gawd knows how long ago that King be replaced. Not presented with a bin bag and his P45 in a corridor, but nevertheless replaced.

I was greeted with a round chorus of 'you're making him ill.'

It seems a perculiar way to treat a legend.

If he was an animal the RSPCA would have stepped in by now and served an order on Levy from owning pets.

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The buy-out can't come soon enough.

Pitiful piles of poo!
Isn't it bleak that the only way we could beat a piss poor(really) side over two legs was with the help of a Man Utd loan player we're grooming for them!
I can't even kid myself that we're one game away from tearing someone a new one. The fact that I can't see us beating Hull AT HOME, or Stoke seems unthinkable a few weeks ago.
I think Mod needs more game time. Hopefully Bentley is sweating the weight off somewhere and practicing delivery... Domino's maybe. Jenas just woeful as they all were really, bar the one joy of the season so far...the octopus, eight tentacles of joy, the women must love him.
I think and hope Ramos's subs are just a result of him being twitchy, therefore thinks he at least needs to be seen to be doing something. If we get a couple of wins, then maybe he'll be less Rafa like.
So bring on Hull?

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I wonder if Woodgate's under-par performance is on account of him having no fixed partner. It can't be easy forging a relationship with King every four games, Dawson every three, Huddlestone every two. Or maybe the sickness has got to him, like it has everyone else at the club.

Wholeheartedly agree. Medic! Man Down!

Harry, King is not getting any younger or better, apart from fitness issues. Pastures can be quite pleasant, I've heard. They're nice and green, there's ample time to lie in the sun and chew the cud as and when.

In a funny sort of why, I see the King issue as fairly core with what's...

I suggested gawd knows how long ago that King be replaced. Not presented with a bin bag and his P45 in a corridor, but nevertheless replaced.

I was greeted with a round chorus of 'you're making him ill.'

It seems a perculiar way to treat a legend.

If...

This will make everyone laugh and hopefully take your minds off the doom & gloom at present, Its absoloutely brilliant:

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Corluka is doing his bit for the eurowag culture:

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And are spurs merely using old statements to shield the truth? (admittedly its from a crap site but the statement is similar in wording)

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Jenas has always been dog crap. Why we keep playing him God only knows. He has maybe 2 decent games out of 30. W.T.F? If Lampard or Gerrard had a piss poor show like that they would be dropped. We for some unknown reason to mankind continue to persist.

Long Live Jamaine Jenas!!!!

You are the best midfielder in the world.

Not even the mighty Tottenham Hotspur will drop you from their starting lineup.

Then again, who the hell could even play in his place? Maybe the great Hossam Ghalley.

"Gomes 9 Quite simply the best thing since sliced bread "

This is sarcasm right?