Some Leaked Architect's Pictures Of A Football Stadium

Thursday, 13 November 08, 11:23 PM · Posted by HarryHotspur

'So Harry, are these are nailed on or my money back piccies of the new Spurs stadium?'

My reply is that these are good. Very good indeed. And certainly head and shoulders above much of the rubbish that has been floating around. Therefore passed on in good faith.

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The new public square that welcomes spectators to the venue will feature the roof truss of the previous stadium attached to two concrete columns acting as a memorial wall, remembering the history of the club.

Symbolically, it will act as the gateway from the old into the new.

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As you can see, the bulk of the new stadium is much larger than the current white hart lane but the height is only slightly increased. The overall visual impact will change significantly, but the design prevents a giant towering and overpowering structure at the site, in terms of height. The translucent roof reduces the impact of shadows on the surrounding structures.

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The roof concept is the same as this one, except this is an olympic athletics stadium proposal. The roof structure is not final, but its a lighter structure than this one, and smaller, so I don't think engineering is challenge.
 

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Steep tiers close to the action

Allianz Arena
Tier 1 24 degrees
Tier 2 29 degrees
Tier 3 34 degrees

Spurs Stadium
Tier 1 25 degrees
Tier 2 30 degree
Tier 3 35 degrees

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I think the design is still quite intimate given the steep tiers.
I'm more of a floating roof kinda person. Thats the aim of this roof i.e. to appear as if its floating above the stadium bowl.

Furthermore, its almost an indoor stadium since the roof opening is quite small and covers part of the field too.

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beau
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1. beau Wrote: | 08.20GMT | Nov 14, 2008

It's hardly "iconic".

Bacon Flavoured Snack Head
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2. Bacon Flavoured Snack Head Wrote: | 08.22GMT | Nov 14, 2008

At this stage obviously any design is subject to change, but these look bloody impressive. Love the roof, although with that concave shape the people on the front rows are going to get very wet when it rains!

Yidden Agenda
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3. Yidden Agenda Wrote: | 08.23GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Actually quite like it. Major plus being that it still, although a bigger capacity, keeps the intimate close to the pitch feel. Which should still give us the ability to create a great matchday atmosphere. COYS!

Rob67
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4. Rob67 Wrote: | 08.24GMT | Nov 14, 2008

This is not the new Spurs stadium, it is from a structure forum,the guys on there are playing around designing their own spurs stadium.

Lilywhites
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5. Lilywhites Wrote: | 08.24GMT | Nov 14, 2008

If these are cosher, and they compare with sketches on the official site then I'm impressed. Still think we need 61 or 62k to overall the arse down the road.

DannyMackay
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6. DannyMackay Wrote: | 08.25GMT | Nov 14, 2008

And if Harry Hotspur had bothered to read the Spurs Oddysey he picked these up from he'd know they are not leaked pictures at all - but pictures done by an architecture enthusiast for enjoyment only.

No one anywhere has claimed these are pictures of the new WHL. Least of all the person who made them up for fun on their own software.

t-h-f-c
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7. t-h-f-c Wrote: | 08.25GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to Rob67:

This is not the new Spurs stadium, it is from a structure forum,the guys on there are playing around designing their own spurs stadium.

share the link to said forum?

AllSeeingEye
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8. AllSeeingEye Wrote: | 08.30GMT | Nov 14, 2008

You got these of off skyscrapercity.com and they are merely ideas from a budding architect using Sketchup.

What makes you think these are the actual plans?

Nice try tho 'Arry...

And I agree with Bacon Flav, it will be poxy when it rains or when the wind blows through it, they should ditch the "floating roof", it's not good enough IMO.

Bacon Flavoured Snack Head
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9. Bacon Flavoured Snack Head Wrote: | 08.31GMT | Nov 14, 2008

I might also add that those steep tiers are not only going to ensure a great view, but will also create one hell of an atmosphere.

I just can't believe how great it is to be a Spurs fan. =D

HarryHotspur
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10. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 08.31GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to t-h-f-c:

Reply to Rob67:

This is not the new Spurs stadium, it is from a structure forum,the guys on there are playing around designing their own spurs stadium.

share the link to said forum?

Here of course..... LINK

JohnnyB
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11. JohnnyB Wrote: | 08.39GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Still want a 61,000 seater stadium though....or at least a 60,001...

HarryHotspur
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12. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 08.40GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to DannyMackay:

And if Harry Hotspur had bothered to read the Spurs Oddysey he picked these up from he'd know they are not leaked pictures at all - but pictures done by an architecture enthusiast for enjoyment only.

No one anywhere has claimed these are pictures of the new WHL. Least of all the...

You really are complete f***ing idiot. Spuds Odious? You socially retarded c**** would take credit for the air we breathe.

That aside, if you took the trouble to read that forum link through, you'd see that there is PERHAPS more to these tham than the 'I did them on an etch a sketch on my tea break' than you suggest.

And, you p****, if the 'enthusiast' hadn't written WHL all over the plans nobody would have bothered to look at them twice.

Lastly, f*** off.

glenwasgod
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13. glenwasgod Wrote: | 08.42GMT | Nov 14, 2008

rafa designing our new stadium? there's a thought - about the only result he'll get in North London for the foreseeable..

stephenperth
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14. stephenperth Wrote: | 08.47GMT | Nov 14, 2008

beau you sound loke a jealous gooner

Crafzman
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15. Crafzman Wrote: | 08.58GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Cant wait, been waiting for the stadium to have a large capacity since 1988 (R.I.P Shelf)

Dont want it to fail through the planning stage. Same area, same road, same postcode, same club, same heart.

Get in there.
Come on you Spurs
Cant wait for tomorrow its gonna be a cracking derby.

t-h-f-c
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16. t-h-f-c Wrote: | 09.14GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to t-h-f-c:
Reply to Rob67:

This is not the new Spurs stadium, it is from a structure forum,the guys on there are playing around designing their own spurs stadium.

share the link to said forum?

Here of course..... LINK harry, shame to see they're not the real deal though. nice designs

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17. Billiospur Wrote: | 09.18GMT | Nov 14, 2008

i would like to see the ground have a lighting design for night games(Bejing) with creative structures as artistic as well as sound
design so the ground is truly an iconic piece of stadia

see Norman foster design for the New nou camp barcelona!

their are costs versus all the factors of choice but this is an opportunity to have one of the best stadiums in the UK for more than

one reason .a true spectacle and experience.....for all spurs fans for generations!!

Be bold!


Kosher Cowboy
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18. Kosher Cowboy Wrote: | 09.18GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Sorry guys but the drawings here do not represent what were pubiished by the offical site. The major mistake is that the paxton road end will need to be demolished in order for the rest of the stadium to be completed. The drawings show both patxon road and the new stadium together

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19. robotfish Wrote: | 09.22GMT | Nov 14, 2008

real or not, Steep high sides + large roof = not enough direct sunlight on turf resulting in a poor quality playing surface and vision-impairing shadows.

Other than that it satisfies my aesthetic sensibilities and even looks as if it might fly which would be a bonus. I'd much rather sit in the Spurs Spaceship and be flown up north than (say) ever visit Goodison or the Reebok again.

Dazza London
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20. Dazza London Wrote: | 09.23GMT | Nov 14, 2008

I can assure you that if these were real Spurs would have had the plug pulled long ago.
A couple of years ago Glory-Glory.co.uk & COYS had actual leaks and were "requested" by the club to remove them within a day of them being put up by a member.
Nice try at getting a "scoop" tho' Harry, shame it's about as reliable as everything else posted on here..... ;)

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21. Kosher Cowboy Wrote: | 09.27GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to Kosher Cowboy:

Sorry guys but the drawings here do not represent what were pubiished by the offical site. The major mistake is that the paxton road end will need to be demolished in order for the rest of the stadium to be completed. The drawings show both patxon road and the new stadium together

I must remember to check my spelling

HarryHotspur
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22. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 09.35GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to Dazza London:

I can assure you that if these were real Spurs would have had the plug pulled long ago.
A couple of years ago Glory-Glory.co.uk & COYS had actual leaks and were "requested" by the club to remove them within a day of them being put up by a member.
Nice try at getting a "scoop" tho'...

Maybe you might try reading what I actually wrote opposed to simply inflicting your own brand of third rate sniffiness on us.

Nobody said this was nailed on.

May I "request" you remove yourself, but do return when less precious.

Cheers.

LookAfteryaCarMate??
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23. LookAfteryaCarMate?? Wrote: | 09.42GMT | Nov 14, 2008

I just love the fact that we are actually moving CLOSER to White Hart Lane. Judging by the plans released yesterday, the new ground will be directly opposite the bottom of the actual "White Hart Lane" N17

Also, as a Spurs fan who actually lived across the other side for the High Road, (Near the Antwerp Arms) for 21 years, went to school behind the East Stand, looked after Supporters cars for a quid (away fans £1.50) as a youth, I@m just overjoyed that the local community still get to benefit from having Tottenham in Tottenham!!


Kudos to Mr Levy and all involved!

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24. TMWNN Wrote: | 09.56GMT | Nov 14, 2008


I see the bloke who knocked that stadium up resides in South Africa where the "floating roof" design might work.

A definite no go on a wet and windy winter afternoon in Tottenham.

Protect us from the elements and seal us in.

Trembly
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25. Trembly Wrote: | 09.56GMT | Nov 14, 2008

'Arry almighty! Why this bunch of pedantic cnuts turn up just to crap over every rumour/possibility, I don't know. It's not like they know themselves what the final thing will look like -we haven't even got through the ruddy planning process yet and a shit load can change in that time. Yes there are design issues with the sketches shown, but even if they're not the real thing, they're still better than that pile of empty crates down the road.

For now, why not enjoy the purple patch and that includes confirmation of a decent plan for a decent stadium we can be proud of (if not all the nitty gritty details signed sealed and delivered).

paulthepedant
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26. paulthepedant Wrote: | 10.02GMT | Nov 14, 2008

from the brochure

"KSS
Responsible for Stadium design, to deliver fantastic design
a world-class experience for all our supporters and visitors.
KSS is a 100 strong architectural practice with extensive
experience designing major stadiums and sporting facilities,
ensuring exceptional design, safe access, excellent sight
lines and all aspects of the spectator experience. Recent
projects include the City of Manchester Stadium, a new
stadium at Coimbra in Portugal for Euro 2004 and a new
training academy for Bolton Wanderers FC."


It's a very nice design but surely if there was any chance it was genuine it would say KSS not RAFA

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27. Trembly Wrote: | 10.03GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to TMWNN:


I see the bloke who knocked that stadium up resides in South Africa where the "floating roof" design might work.

A definite no go on a wet and windy winter afternoon in Tottenham.

Protect us from the elements and seal us in.

Too true. Cold, wet, windy. All features for the new stadium must be completely thought through, from 'christening' the ground (for all religions) to feng shui as well as all the business/user friendly aesthetics.

We want to get off to the best possible start in our new home and not have to resort to things like 'white witches' as they did at St. Mary's in Southampton.

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28. Phischy Wrote: | 10.05GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Harry, seriously, read the forum you got these pics from properly and you'll see they are a budding architects mockups, the watermark is of his invented compant, which is obviously not mentioned in the bid docs and he has done a similar design before as a mock up for an olympic stadium. It's not real buddy, it's because of stuff like this people don't take you seriously.

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29. onedavemackay Wrote: | 10.17GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to DannyMackay:

And if Harry Hotspur had bothered to read the Spurs Oddysey he picked these up from he'd know they are not leaked pictures at all - but pictures done by an architecture enthusiast for enjoyment only.

No one anywhere has claimed these are pictures of the new WHL. Least of all the...

You really are complete f***ing idiot. Spuds Odious? You socially retarded c**** would take credit for the air we breathe.

That aside, if you took the trouble to read that forum link through, you'd see that there is PERHAPS more to these tham than the 'I did them on an etch a sketch...

Harry can you please be more explicit.


Try not to hold back next time

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30. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 10.31GMT | Nov 14, 2008

Reply to Phischy:

Harry, seriously, read the forum you got these pics from properly and you'll see they are a budding architects mockups, the watermark is of his invented compant, which is obviously not mentioned in the bid docs and he has done a similar design before as a mock up for an olympic stadium. It's not...

where on Gods good earth does HH say that these are kosher? He doesn't so stop banging on as though he has robbed your nan.

It's in the title. "Some leakes Architect drawings of a football stadium" It doesn't say "of Spurs new stadium" does it?

It does exactly what it says on the tin.

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