Sunderland Indoors The PreMatch Prattle

Friday, 22 August 08, 11:16 AM · Posted by HarryHotspur

 

"They... go. They vanish. People. Civilizations. Languages. Philosophies. Works of art disappear, species are extinguished, books are lost, sities drown, things once thought immortal suddenly aren't there at all. Train compartments, snuff, galoshes, paintings, dreams and innocence, music. A glossary of the missing. A cabinet of absent curiosties."

Lost Worlds - Michael Bywater

 

Today will be fun. Unless you're Tottenham of course. It turned out that the fella who'd been down the gym all summer working out was still a seven stone weakling after all. On his first trip to the beach he got Egyptian sand kicked in his face and his 99 stuck on top of his head for good measure by some fat bloke and his northern mates.

Wendy has called for calm. I do like him. A call for something was in order and calm is as good as any successful Russian transfer in book right now. The 'might' of Sunderland is equal to that of Boro so it is in our hands now to readdress the 90 minutes wasted last week. Ramos knows that which we don't and that is the likelihood of more inbound transfers to The Lane is now slight.

The Russian deals have progressed on a par with invading their motherland in Winter and the speculative conversations with all the others in the rest of the world have generated little or nothing beyond what was established in conversations had before the Euros. My fear is the usual backlash borne out of frustration and an awful lot of 'newer' fans who signed up for rather more than what you and I would call 'the usual nonsense'. Spending another £30 million on players unproven in this league would guarantee nothing anyway.

Brian Glanville's Immutable Law Of The Ex hovers over this match like no other. The potential unmitigated disaster of defeat would be compounded beyond all belief if Roy Keane and our 'so called' also rans were to beat us. I don't want to dwell on that.

All we can hope and indeed demand is that every man gives it his upmost. Teemu is rumoured to be out, but perhaps some of our lot will remember his spirit come Saturday...  and with the singular exception of the Bulgarian Rat... no one from our lot - gets lost.

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gra
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1. gra Wrote: | 12.17BST | Aug 22, 2008

that 'bulgarian rat' is the finest player to play for us in a decade. stop taking the media bait to get on his back.

if he stays another season i'll be f****** over the moon.

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2. rich g Wrote: | 12.17BST | Aug 22, 2008

still no bite in the midfield, still a real lack of quality at the back , three points is a must with chavscum away next, can the seven stone weaklings step up to the plate?? =D

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3. Hot Spurs Wrote: | 12.18BST | Aug 22, 2008

Dont BOO! Berba. The Berbatov shirt signing was clearly a setup. The away strip of Bulgaria is RED and if you look closely at the MAN UTD shirt you can see whichever moron who is getting it signed is actually covering most of it with a second WHITE shirt! Could this even be the Bulgaria HOME shirt????
I think this whole thing stinks of malicious underhand dealings, either by the SUN or by MAN utd themselves.
Honestly how convenient that the man was there with two shirts, covering most of the MAN utd shirt and had identifying marks visible only from behind, where as luck would have it a camera was. Now this is no professional camera, because that may make it too easy to prove it was a setup!

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4. esspee Wrote: | 12.19BST | Aug 22, 2008

I just can't see us losing this game. Sunderland have brought in another 4 players this week, all of whom will meet for the first time at 3pm on the pitch at WHL. At least our new boys have been introduced, albeit in passing, at Middlesbrough. I'm going 3-1 Spurs. Bent, Bentley and Berbatov.

As for the transfer lull, I am naively assuming we have irons in fires elsewhere. Corluka should happen and even if we end there, it's progress. I have faith. COYS!

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5. Stephen Wrote: | 12.22BST | Aug 22, 2008

I will be distraught if I see anything other than the following appear on the jumbotron at 2:30 tomorrow.

Gomes
Zokora Woody King Bale
Bentley Jenas Modric J2S
Bent Berbatov

Similar to the Roma game, if things need freshening up 2nd half, Lennon on for Berbs (if hes sulkin) and switch to a 4-5-1 come 4-3-3, Lennon and J2S in behind Bent. I do not want to see BAE or Dawson figure unless completely unavoidable.

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6. 2DayArry Wrote: | 12.22BST | Aug 22, 2008

bloody hell, it all sounds abit dismal don't it, can't help but say ditto, well said, just have to wait and see. Can't quite believe, actually I can believe here we go again. Same Shit different year. The Greeks had a word for the way we were feeling before last weeks game, Hueborous, forgive the spelling. I hear it means the smell of victory followed by the taste of defeat. Ah the highs and the lows only 30 odd to go 8O :\ :P

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7. JohnnyCheshunt Wrote: | 12.24BST | Aug 22, 2008

Hello everyone-love this site-first post for me-I'm trying really hard not to get carried away with all the fear mongering but I'm on WHL everyday for work and I think its in the air, because of what happenned last season.. Even so, I'm banishing my concerns and predicting a very classy win indeed. Its got to be on the cards, I mean surely? Its Juande innit?

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8. Steve Wrote: | 12.26BST | Aug 22, 2008

I think we'll win. Please Ramos put zokora in defensive centre mid. When he's put right back it takes too much from the centre. Gunter to play right back. Also when are we going to let go of some more players? YPL, KPB, Stalteri, Rocha, Ghaly?

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9. loozegear Wrote: | 12.26BST | Aug 22, 2008

Harry could you please wipe the Omelette from my brow!lets hope not my friend

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10. jurgen Wrote: | 12.30BST | Aug 22, 2008

spot on stephen. i don't want BAE or Dawson anywhere near the back for and I certainly don't want to see bentley on the left. we should be playing them off the park with the players we have. lets hope we see some flowing football like in pre-season eh?

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11. sicknote Wrote: | 12.32BST | Aug 22, 2008

I'm sick of people saying that Boro was just one game and that we can't just forecast a season of doom and gloom from it. I was one of these people this time last year and was forced to eat my words like a anorexic person eating a kfc bargain bucket. I'm not making the same mistake again, we clearly have huge gaping holes in our line up and until they are filled properly and not wallpapered over I will not get my hopes up. We have some real quality at the lane right now but it's just not being exploited anywhere near enough.

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12. CaptainMabbsey Wrote: | 12.36BST | Aug 22, 2008

I for one am looking forward to tomorrow but much like a 4-0 home win over Derby early last season, it won't mean anything unless we can kick on. Ever the optimist, I am expecting 3 points but would like to see some genuine cohesion. I would rather 1-0 and see some genuine understanding and improvement on last year, than 4-2 and just banging it upfield waiting for the lucky knockdowns (stand up Mickey D).

On berba, I certainly won't be booing him but he won't get a cheer when his name is announced. The shirt thing was a load of rubbish. Had I been walking down the road in my Spurs shirt and seen Ronaldo/Messi/Ronaldinho, I doubt their supporters would have a problem with them signing my shirt..., actually, that f**ker cost £40. Wouldn't have anyone writing on it... but you see the point i'm making, it was all inflamitory garbage, churned out by the nations favourite bog roll fodder, The Sun.

Diarra please! Thanks Wendy. COYS

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13. jamiespurs Wrote: | 12.38BST | Aug 22, 2008

Stephen, I am in complete and utter agreement with your team and ideas.

If Berba's chat with Ramos does not go well I think we'll see a revertion to the 4-5-1 and in fairness if Berba is to leave are we not better off trying to learn to play without him??

We need to get a result tomoro so that we have points on the board and morale in the camp for the Chavski game next week. A resounding victory would not only banish the dismal memories of Boro but also get the lads bang up for playing the bastards in blue.

Hopefully by this time next week a few new faces should be at the club and that should give everyone a boost.

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14. sturoo Wrote: | 12.41BST | Aug 22, 2008

if he picks same midfield who says we wont be muscled out again

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15. fatfish Wrote: | 12.44BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to Stephen:

I will be distraught if I see anything other than the following appear on the jumbotron at 2:30 tomorrow.

Gomes
Zokora Woody King Bale
Bentley Jenas Modric J2S
Bent Berbatov

Similar to the Roma game, if things need freshening up 2nd half, Lennon on...

Gunter at RB, Hudd in Cm in place of JJ please.

We are still working on targets according to JR's media conference yesterday.

LINK

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16. jamiespurs Wrote: | 12.45BST | Aug 22, 2008

He wont drop JJ but I would like to see Gunter at RB in place of Zokora.

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17. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 12.48BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to gra:

that 'bulgarian rat' is the finest player to play for us in a decade. stop taking the media bait to get on his back.

if he stays another season i'll be f****** over the moon.

Media bait????? 8O

This bait has his DNA all over it, mate. Nothing touted by journos that isn't there ibn this instance.

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18. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 12.48BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to gra:

that 'bulgarian rat' is the finest player to play for us in a decade. stop taking the media bait to get on his back.

if he stays another season i'll be f****** over the moon.

'in' this instance, even... :?

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19. fatfish Wrote: | 12.49BST | Aug 22, 2008

Kompany signing now official for Man City, on their OS.

Bring on Corluka please!!

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20. jamiespurs Wrote: | 12.52BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to fatfish:

Kompany signing now official for Man City, on their OS.

Bring on Corluka please!!

Cant believe we missed out on Kompany! IMO we could of got him and Corluka for around £15m for the pair!

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21. What's going on with Berba Wrote: | 12.57BST | Aug 22, 2008

If Berba is in indecision as it looks a little like Man U have cooled off (Huntaleer rumours?) then why not make him feel right at home on Saturday - give the man a cheer & even sing his name why not?!? - Ramos has recently said that Berbatov is 100% a Spurs player & a proffesional in training etc.
After reading some of the comments above this one there are plenty of us fans who are doubting success this season, so why critisize Berba for thinking the same if he has Champions League ambitions, it's a short career and he has the ability - If he could get CL football at our beloved Spurs (I know it's coming!) then he'd be happy as Larry!

Anyway, that's my 5 pence worth.
COYS, 3-0 on Saturday. Bent twice & Bale why not ;)

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22. 7screws Wrote: | 13.06BST | Aug 22, 2008

still need to bring in corluka 8O

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23. TMWNN Wrote: | 13.13BST | Aug 22, 2008

The Berbatov saga is hijacking our season. The sooner he goes, the better for everyone.

If we play 4-4-2 with Jenas and Modic in the centre, I'll be very nervous.

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24. Kingyid Wrote: | 13.15BST | Aug 22, 2008

Well, the pre match chat, has begun.

There is bound to be a mix of views, some optimistic, some not so, but I tell you one thing, without meaning to put on pressure, but we've got to win this one, Sunderland at home, any talk of the top four is way off if we can't beat the geordies.

Sky Sports news are reporting that we turned down the opportunity to sign Arshavin due to the fee. According to them he is due to be offered a new deal. Great...If he doesn't come to Spurs, I for one will be very disappointed.

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25. Kingyid Wrote: | 13.17BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to fatfish:

Kompany signing now official for Man City, on their OS.

Bring on Corluka please!!

Cant believe we missed out on Kompany! IMO we could of got him and Corluka for around £15m for the pair!

I was thinking the same when I heard Silverstre had joined the Arse. That sort of experience would be very valuable to our youn team, why didn't we make an approach?

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26. TMWNN Wrote: | 13.20BST | Aug 22, 2008

It's only his agent who is saying he thinks a new contract is on the cards.

Probably a last ditch effort to get Levy to pay up and get his grubby little mitts on his 10%.

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27. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 13.24BST | Aug 22, 2008

oh who cares about another season down the drain and the escapades of our favourite Bulgarian cuntknuckle (booooooooo..)

what we should be more concerned about is what the fuck bentley thinks he is up to?

LINK

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28. Kingyid Wrote: | 13.28BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to TMWNN:

It's only his agent who is saying he thinks a new contract is on the cards.

Probably a last ditch effort to get Levy to pay up and get his grubby little mitts on his 10%.

These bloody Russians, Jesus... why can't anything be straight forward. I suppose their Arshavin is our Berbatov and likewise they want the best fee possible, probably thinking well we've got until Sept 1st, might as well carry on haggling and see if Spurs finally pay whats required. I'm convinced if we sold Berbatov, then the signings would flood in the door, well maybe trickle in!

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29. onetruenorthlondon Wrote: | 13.32BST | Aug 22, 2008

Reply to Stephen:

I will be distraught if I see anything other than the following appear on the jumbotron at 2:30 tomorrow.

Gomes
Zokora Woody King Bale
Bentley Jenas Modric J2S
Bent Berbatov

Similar to the Roma game, if things need freshening up 2nd half, Lennon on...

not a bd shout but in YPL (if fit) haven't we got a perfectly good right footed left back?
could we not play him out of position as a right footed right back?

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30. Stephen Wrote: | 13.38BST | Aug 22, 2008

As I understand it, the club have been trying to ship YPL out for a while, looked like a deal would be struck with PSV but this hasnt materialised. Maybe now that Martin Jol is short of one full back he might head to the Hamburgers (hopefully along with KPB)

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