The Case Against Ferguson - A Fascinating Exclusive

Sunday, 20 July 08, 01:19 PM · Posted by HarryHotspur

 

The Grump From Goven's face is now the same colour as his nose. Only this time it isn't down the Oom Pah Pah.

I can exclusively reveal the evidence against Sir Alex.

And whilst the global media spin was spun, the most interesting activity of all was tucked away on a Norwegian web site. Everybody was looking for Neil Custis's original piece from Friday's edition of The Sun. This contained the quotes that Levy was supposedly hanging Ferguson by.

But the real story was quietly being removed from a Manchester United Supporters Club site in Norway.

The piece in question was an exclusive interview Sir Alex Ferguson gave to the editor of an officially MUFC endorsed Scandanavian Man Utd fanzine prior to the team jetting off for some preseason in South Africa.

This is, or rather was the url. http://www.united.no/united/nyheter/...berbatov_kjoep . As you can see it's been removed. UPDATE: Try this: http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:KL0KEpYMF7YJ:www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep+www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk

Fortunately I managed to get a translated copy the text from a Nowegian Man Utd fan posting on a Man Utd forum. 

- "We have submitted a bid for Bebatov, and we're optimistic about the prospect of signing him. He's impressed over a long period of time and would make a good addition to the squad", SAF says.

He admits that he would love to bring Berbatov to the pre-season tour to RSA, but says that the clubs is in no rush.

- "We're in no rush and are hopeful to stage constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon."

Ironically, the translated piece concludes with...

Asked about Ronaldo, he didn't want to say much apart from "dealing with the matter it in a correct way".

So that's what I have. Presumption I am told is the mother of all fuck ups, but I guess Levy has this and presumably more. There's a whisper he has much, but what I know not - and it's pointless speculating.  

The case against Liverpool is more straightforward. Their Premier League rule flouting halfwit stood on chair,  on SSN, shouting into a loudhailer, 'I am Rafa Benitez, footballer manager and I much like to buy Robbie Keane. Is not rat. Is hamster."

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124 Comments

scar88
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1. scar88 Wrote: | 14.46BST | Jul 20, 2008

fucking love it!

toddspur
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2. toddspur Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

god i hope they drag old red nose through the crud on this and you never know he may withdraw his interest in Berbs.....not sure i want him back now. Rather Barca came in and paid 20 mill than those cnuts having him.

As for RK, well egg and face springs to mind when the scousers get on one knee and say they have no money

good work H

SNOWYID
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3. SNOWYID Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

about time mancscum got took down a peg or 5, points deduction anyone, as for deadpool lol bang to rights, what an idiot, but lets face it guys can we really see the PL doing anything about this coz i cant.

CD Rizzla
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4. CD Rizzla Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

Good work Harry, i along with others believe that Levy has much more which he has already been through with an extensive legal team.

Would also like to give Kudos to the Liverpool fans out there who have made far less of this than the man u fans. A number of Pool fans have said they will stand by the club but are disgusted in the way it has been operated. Apposed to the man u fans who have just really resorted to name calling and at this stage ar feeling comfortable listening to the clueless drivel from the media who now believe Fergie's comments later about the man u legal team where to form a case to sue Spurs apposed to properly go over spurs allegations.

Spurs Dude
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5. Spurs Dude Wrote: | 14.53BST | Jul 20, 2008

Nice 1 HH.
Let's see if Rudolph can blag his way out of that..... 8)
Sell the guy to Barca.... 8)

Bert simkins
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6. Bert simkins Wrote: | 14.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

If it goes the same way as 'chelea gate' do we insist on them losing 3 points or do we negotiate for a sackfull of them 'norven beans' or whatever currency their using these days?

Noel Hamilton
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7. Noel Hamilton Wrote: | 14.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

Harry,
i love this site and i am with you on most of the topics.
I have a funny feeling that we are going to land Villa.
Oh i have a spurs scout coming to watch my son and a few other kids in the Foyle cup in Derry next week so wish Daniel and all the rest of the kids good luck guys, you might just be cheering one of them on over the next few years and i can assure you that this is one Irishman that will be playing for the team that he loves,COYS>

toddspur
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8. toddspur Wrote: | 14.55BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to CD Rizzla:

Good work Harry, i along with others believe that Levy has much more which he has already been through with an extensive legal team.

Would also like to give Kudos to the Liverpool fans out there who have made far less of this than the man u fans. A number of Pool fans have said they...

Very good point Riz, they know they aint got enough cash at the moment so unlike that bottomless pit at old stratford they best keep stum for a while.

QuietAtTheLibrary
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9. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 14.56BST | Jul 20, 2008

Regardless of what the red nosed twat said or didn't say, Levy would never have penned that letter without evidence. Levy is bloody bright (1st Cambridge) and the drunk with the brain capacity of Jade Goody.

Sell the miserable prick to barca even if it means 5-7mil less.

Keane, you can sit on the bench and moan like a tart as far as I'm concerned you c&&t!

franco
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10. franco Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

That's right, I've actually seen that. I'm a Norwegian journalist and a Spurs fan and at work we have a pretty good overview on what happens on Norwegian sites and such. I must say that I was very surprised that the Norwegian Supporters mag got an interview with Ferguson, but then again United have a shocking 20.000 members in their Norwegian fan club and Fergusun does have connection to the Norwegian fans through Solskjær. However, the link did't work for me know, have they removed it allready? I do think that the story was correct, as making up quotes is totally unheard of in the Norwegian media, but one can of course ask how much a sloppy comment to a foreign supporters magazine really affects stuff in England. But I can at least confirm that it was published here the other day in in interview they claim they made right before they travelled to South Africa.

Cocker
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11. Cocker Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

It's not so much Fergie in all this, he's not been as bad as Rafael "I've tapped up more times than a typist" Benitez. Berbatov was always keen to move on so he was unsettled when he knew his stock went up following a sublime debut season.
Keano however, regardless of what he said in the media about "loving the club" and "wanting to see out his career" (or whatever other arse-kissing serenades did emerge from his mouth), was NOT unsettled.

Harry - you know as well as the rest of us know that the Premier League will do sweet FA. The best we can hope for is Ramos pulling his finger out and finding us a new strike force which:

a) Doesn't rely on the many talents of Darren Bent (namely to bring down a Charlton Athletic-esque long ball and hope for the best)
b) Isn't made up of two obscure 30-something Spaniards found lingering in the reserves of Valencia or a similar team.

COYS!

toddspur
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12. toddspur Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to Noel Hamilton:

Harry,
i love this site and i am with you on most of the topics.
I have a funny feeling that we are going to land Villa.
Oh i have a spurs scout coming to watch my son and a few other kids in the Foyle cup in Derry next week so wish Daniel and all the rest of the kids good luck...

noel, wish your son luck mate, best keep an eye out for Simon Jordon though!

TheSchoolboy
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13. TheSchoolboy Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

"Is not rat. Is hamster"

I presume you are refering to the half swallowed mammal that is protruding over the fat spaniards chin in the guise of a beard.

He's had a bollocking coming off the FA for a while. Just look at the whole Gareth Barry saga. WANKER!!

SAF is a tosser, To quote an over-used cliche, "I'd LOVE it, just LOVE it" if he gets a kickikng off the FA. Still won't stop berbs fucking off though.

Yid
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14. Yid Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Hi

I've heard that because we (Spurs) are a PLC that Levy has to be certain about what Ferguson has said - if not then Levy can be sacked.

GaffaJol
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15. GaffaJol Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Unless we are really in need of the money - I would do a deal with Barca or ANY other club and sell for £10.7mill (what we paid?) - plus a hefty (35-40%) sell on clause and a bunch of others add-ons such as 'X' amount after every honour won while hes played in at least 1 game or something like that. Until it was bumped up to the £23-£28million.

But we should certainly NOT sell to ManUtd... you shouldnt sell to the competition to your own detriment and definately not when theyre going about it the way ManUtd are.

JapanSpur
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16. JapanSpur Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no? The fact that they are confident of signing the player(s) (despite having an offer turned down) could just be that they are willing to increase their offer and are optimistic.

Of course I see that Ferguson's comments (and Rafa's) are annoying, but don't see how a case can really be brought against them. If I am wrog, someone please tell me why.

QuietAtTheLibrary
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17. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 15.02BST | Jul 20, 2008

I just want Levy to sell Berba to Barca, just to see the pricks face; even if we get 5mil less... :)

toddspur
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18. toddspur Wrote: | 15.02BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

QuietAtTheLibrary
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19. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 15.04BST | Jul 20, 2008

Japanstar: you're correct. It so hard to prove that's why he's being so cocky.

Nothing will come of this as both clubs don't want to drag this through the courts and papers.

Still, Levy, stick with your guns my friend... :D

JapanSpur
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20. JapanSpur Wrote: | 15.07BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to toddspur:

Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

But he doesn't seem to have admitted that he spoke to Berbatov, only that he was hoping to have "constructive conversations with Tottenham." If the players asked to leave because they heard of their interest in the newspaper, then it isn't clear cut tapping up. I'm sure that they were in fact tapped up, but, from what has been revealed, we don't seem to have any evidence of that.

toddspur
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21. toddspur Wrote: | 15.21BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to JapanSpur:

Reply to toddspur:
Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

But he doesn't seem to have admitted that he spoke to Berbatov, only that he was hoping to have "constructive conversations with Tottenham." If the players asked to leave because they heard of their interest in the newspaper, then it isn't clear cut tapping up. I'm sure that they were in fact...

ok i see what your saying, i still think something aint right here, as said earlier Levy is bright spark so theres more to it than this.

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22. Valtrane Wrote: | 15.22BST | Jul 20, 2008

I think we should follow the Ferguson-Ronaldo stance and rather have them rot in the stands for the remainder of their contracts than sell them.

I can't help but feel that those two going could be a blessing in disguise.

theoriginaldannyboy
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23. theoriginaldannyboy Wrote: | 15.32BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to TheSchoolboy:

"Is not rat. Is hamster"

I presume you are refering to the half swallowed mammal that is protruding over the fat spaniards chin in the guise of a beard.

He's had a bollocking coming off the FA for a while. Just look at the whole Gareth Barry saga. WANKER!!
...

I think Harry is actually referring to an episode of Fawlty Towers when the dumb spanish waiter (Benitez) has a rat for a pet and thinks it's a hamster. Sorry, showing my age here.

as for the blog topic - 100% well researched H. Let's see the Scottish prick wriggle out of this; it's about time the 'little' clubs stood up to the 'big' clubs. Go on Levy my son. And I still say the sooner them 2 traitors leave, the better. Put them on gardening leave - that's what happens in industry.

coys

welshspur2307
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24. welshspur2307 Wrote: | 15.34BST | Jul 20, 2008

Two points.
1. Man Utd refused to sell Heinze to Liverpool as they didn't want him going to a rival. Spurs should do the same with DB, lower the asking price slightly and send him off to the continent.
2. If Alex Ferguson uses the same legal team to sue Levy as Utd used in their complaint to UEFA against Real Madrid then our chairman shouldn't have much to worry about.

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25. emad nimah Wrote: | 15.38BST | Jul 20, 2008

Unless the case goes to a legal court, the pro United and biased League and FA committees will make Ferguson look like a Spurs victim. In a legal court the red nose would be embarrassingly exposed of this and past misdeeds.

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26. robbieboy Wrote: | 15.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

So since Ramos has come in, looks like the whole team will change. Martin Jol's legacy well and truly done and dusted, some by choice, some by greed... and forced hand.
No chance of the two former greats rotting in the reserves, being a PLC, they wouldn't be able to account the 120K a week going to two players sitting in the reserves. Much though we'd all like that! Best we can hope for is getting some good money... Or perhaps swap deal for Berba to Barca, and Etoo in the other direction, love Berba to be told by Levy. You want to leave, then leave, but you wont be joining UTD. Barca he'd still go there like a shot anyhow... Re Etoo also eems like his list of suitors has twindled substanitally, so may also be of interest. Then use the rest of the money from Keane's transfer and sunderland deals to go get Villa... what you reckon guys?

sonicdreams
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27. sonicdreams Wrote: | 15.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

This is the Google translation of a cached (17 Jul 08) version of the missing Norwegian webpage: LINK

QuietAtTheLibrary
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28. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 16.12BST | Jul 20, 2008

Excellent work sonicdreams :D

Fuck of Man USA you pricks!

Simon
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29. Simon Wrote: | 16.18BST | Jul 20, 2008

I believe one of the main issues is that Levy says, he has eveidence that both clubs have spoken to Berbs adm keane's agents and the players, without permission. IF he has that, they should nail Rafa and Fergie to the fucking wall. Deduct 10 points (as per Luton a while back) and fine the fuck out of them

-Simon

ross wireless
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30. ross wireless Wrote: | 16.22BST | Jul 20, 2008

No to rotting in reserves yes to selling