What Has The Supporter's Trust Got to Hide?

Tuesday, 14 October 08, 07:08 AM ยท Posted by HarryHotspur

 

The scene: Spurs Odious.

Member 'COYS 245' bless, dares ask....

"I read in the Sunday press that Daniel Levy has agreed to a face to face meeting with members of THFC Supporters Trust this week, Wednesday.

If it is true, are any members of this site going to be present at this meeting or privvy to what is said in the meeting? Could you please let everyone on this site know what happenned, what was said.

Although in true Levy fashion I imagine everything he will say will be spin I would be very interested to hear what the little man has to say... Any news on this event will be greatly appreciated..."

Five hours later, the Private Member's Board Supremo himself condescendes to pass comment.
"It is a scheduled Trust meeting. Any further comment and direct feedback must really be reserved for Trust members via their message board/mailing list ."
Oh, and what a shocker. And guess what? The Trust's message board is operated by....step forward one Paul Smith. What is it with this guy and all the need for secrets?  
Unrepentant, unhinged lunatic COYS 245 asks,
"So Spursod does that mean we dont get to hear what went on afetrwards???"
No further crumbs are deemed necessary to be brushed toward this poor mug of a Tottenham fan...despite a further ask of,
 "I would have imagined that the Supporters Trust is set up so as to  represent us small folk... I would love to know hat is discussed... All seems to be very hush, hush though... "
You poor misguided fool.
This is a closed shop being operated by people who have clearly failed elsewhere in life. How wrong and archaic is this? Please, somebody rid me of these clowns.
When the **** is someone who cares about this club going to step in and make a real difference and remove these third rate, shabby no marks who do nothing but patronise us like school children?
We're all going to hell in a handcart and these prats are steering.
The last guy in charge of the Supporter's Trust fled the post amid allegation and accusation. 
It's time to sack the lot and let's get something set up that is transparent and true.
If you've nothing to hide - then cut the parlour games and tell us what's going on.

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115 Comments

Tony_Spursano
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1. Tony_Spursano Wrote: | 07.40BST | Oct 14, 2008

I heard Carrick and uncle bulgaria were serving the twiglets. That is why we can't all attend.
Harry, get some perspective :|

jolsgonemental
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2. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 08.20BST | Oct 14, 2008

Little boys club. Self important people looking to pat each other on the back rather than serve the purpose of representing Spurs supporters


jolsgonemental
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3. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 08.22BST | Oct 14, 2008

Unfortunately Levy wont talk to me. I have tried.

Tony_Spursano
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4. Tony_Spursano Wrote: | 08.51BST | Oct 14, 2008

The ugly truth of it is :

"he who pulleth thee purse strings, owneth the priveledge to speaketh once whence doth thereof spoketh too"

try saying that without sounding like you are chewing on a globe of cinder toffee... =D

COYS

jamiespurs
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5. jamiespurs Wrote: | 08.56BST | Oct 14, 2008

HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were spouting was worse than some of Ridsdales nonsense.

I think that something urgently needs to be done so that EVERY fan has the ability to have a say about Tottenham Hotspur FC. The very fact that people like Paul Smith are treating it like some Famous Five club make it inaccessable and unrepresentative as it is the same people coming up with the same tired view on every occassion.

HH, any ideas on how we can take back the supporters trust from these self-important, jumped up imbeciles?

Ginge1
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6. Ginge1 Wrote: | 08.56BST | Oct 14, 2008

I started to read and started laughing as I was waiting for number 1 fan 'Paul Smith' to be involved somewhere. I'm still laughing now, if I didn't I'd cry!

Totally agree with your comments, why not open it up to all Spurs fans? Hopefully a HH reader will be a trust member or such like and can relay what went down. Even better get them to take a bag in with a secret camera a la Donal McIntrye (or whatever his name is - like Roger Cook!) and then sent it to you to post on here.

I feel like i'm part of the French resistance, "I will zay zis only once!" ;)

Ginge1
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7. Ginge1 Wrote: | 08.58BST | Oct 14, 2008

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HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

jamiespurs
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8. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.04BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to Ginge1:

Reply to jamiespurs:

HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

How about this as proof of my identity:

I fuc*ing hate Michael Dawson. If i was Juande Ramos I'd put Dawson to work in the post room, that way he cannot harm another Spurs team again!

Something needs to be done about the supporteers trust. How can they call themselves the supporters trust when they only represent the same idiotic self important people that want to keep it like a boys brigade club (Odds on they have a secret handshake). HH, is it worth putting it out there to see if any of your illustrious readers are members of the supporters trust?? I think more fans need to have a say.

Ginge, where have you been?

Ginge1
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9. Ginge1 Wrote: | 09.08BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to Ginge1:
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HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

How about this as proof of my identity:

I fuc*ing hate Michael Dawson. If i was Juande Ramos I'd put Dawson to work in the post room, that way he cannot harm another Spurs team again!

Something needs to be done about the supporteers trust. How can they call themselves...

Trying to sort my head out!

My Tuesday went like this,

1. Phone call from boss to tell me I've been made redundant (not unexpected, big pay off but banking is hardly a buoyant sector to get another job in at mo)
2. Boss tells me my last day is in 6 days and as such they want their car back
3. Mrs tells me she can't settle up norf (after 5 years) and is off with the little un back to London as soon as she gets a job.
4. Spurs are still bottom of the league

As such i've been out on a few benders with my mates while I decide if i'm going to emigrate to the Big Smoke.

Ginge1
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10. Ginge1 Wrote: | 09.09BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to jamiespurs:

HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

How about this as proof of my identity:

I fuc*ing hate Michael Dawson. If i was Juande Ramos I'd put Dawson to work in the post room, that way he cannot harm another Spurs team again!

Something needs to be done about the supporteers trust. How can they call themselves...

Harry - its defo jaimespurs, no body else has such hatred for big Mickey D!

jamiespurs
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11. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.14BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to Ginge1:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to jamiespurs:

HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

How about this as proof of my identity:

I fuc*ing hate Michael Dawson. If i was Juande Ramos I'd put Dawson to work in the post room, that way he cannot harm another Spurs team again!

Something needs to be done about the supporteers trust. How can they call themselves...

Trying to sort my head out!

My Tuesday went like this,

1. Phone call from boss to tell me I've been made redundant (not unexpected, big pay off but banking is hardly a buoyant sector to get another job in at mo)
2. Boss tells me my last day is in 6 days and as...

Fuck me. Sorry to hear that mate! Thats a truly bad few days in anyones book. I'm sure the HH family will rally round you on this occassion.

I'd like to say that at least you have Spurs to cheer you up. Unfortunately I can't!

Thats a rather large accumilation of bad luck. Sounds stupid but try not to dwell on it. So is the big smoke calling???

jamiespurs
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12. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.18BST | Oct 14, 2008

Fuck me. Sorry to hear that mate! Thats a truly bad few days in anyones book. I'm sure the HH family will rally round you on this occassion.

I'd like to say that at least you have Spurs to cheer you up. Unfortunately I can't!

Thats a rather large accumilation of bad luck. Sounds stupid but try not to dwell on it. So is the big smoke calling???

Poshspur
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13. Poshspur Wrote: | 09.18BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to Ginge1:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to jamiespurs:

HH

I'm with you on this one. The last time we had the unfortunate experience of Paul Smith and the ODIOUS brigade, their attitude was appalling. They did as you said, speak down to all of us as we were not worthy of supporting Spurs. Quite frankly some of the bull poop they were...

How do we know you are the real JaimeSpurs?

H this could be a set up, "wvat is your name?" - "Don't tell him Pike!"

How about this as proof of my identity:

I fuc*ing hate Michael Dawson. If i was Juande Ramos I'd put Dawson to work in the post room, that way he cannot harm another Spurs team again!

Something needs to be done about the supporteers trust. How can they call themselves...

Harry - its defo jaimespurs, no body else has such hatred for big Mickey D!

I should like to contest the Michael Dawson hatred award...I regularly crap on about how he can only play with Led screaming orders in his ears and that on no account should he ever play for Spurs again, including the reserves, he'll bring any defense quivering to it's knees in no time.
"And the award goes to..."
Jamie Spurs...I don't hate him as a man! He just hasn't the skills or probably more importantly the intelligence to learn...Balls.

Ginge1
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14. Ginge1 Wrote: | 09.23BST | Oct 14, 2008

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Fuck me. Sorry to hear that mate! Thats a truly bad few days in anyones book. I'm sure the HH family will rally round you on this occassion.

I'd like to say that at least you have Spurs to cheer you up. Unfortunately I can't!

Thats a rather large accumilation of bad...

Not all bad, i'll get two years salary as a pay off. The thing that guts me is I'm going to have to get rid of the 5 bed house we bought 12 months ago (& probably lose money on it) then buy a 3 bed terrace or a flat in London. Also the fact the Mrs is off regardless makes me wonder if I should go with her. On the bright side I'd be nearer Lane so would be able to get to more games!

Not really the forum to discuss this but makes me feel better getting it off my chest!

Poshspur
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15. Poshspur Wrote: | 09.29BST | Oct 14, 2008

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Fuck me. Sorry to hear that mate! Thats a truly bad few days in anyones book. I'm sure the HH family will rally round you on this occassion.

I'd like to say that at least you have Spurs to cheer you up. Unfortunately I can't!

Thats a rather large accumilation of bad...

I can offer Ginge some financial advice...stick any payoff money under your mattress.
Sorry shouldn't make light of a nightmare scenario...
In two weeks time we could have 8 points on the board.....and still be rock bottom.
When you're at the bottom the only way is up? Do cliches help?!
;)
Talking of Gaels(Cliche), when I was 18 my dad actually said to me "There are plenty more fish in the sea" just after I'd been binned by a bird. Problem was I prefered women...although she did have this odour?

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16. onedavemackay Wrote: | 09.42BST | Oct 14, 2008

An old school friend who is a member of THFC Supporters Trust is concerned about your concerns and has asked me to pass on this message:

"The Trust is for the benefit of all true supporters of our great club but it is not practical for the members of the Trust to impart certain information to other supporters and to impart uncertain information might be considered foolhardy. Furthermore, as the word "Trust" implies there must be faith that we will work in the best interests of everyone in complete secrecy so as not to burden the average supporter with matters far beyond the understanding of a simple working man or banker.

I hope this clarifies any misunderstanding"

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17. Paul Smith Wrote: | 09.47BST | Oct 14, 2008

My attention has been drawn to this item. I fail to understand the level of abuse that I personally seem to attract, just because I run another website and one of many message boards that require people to register to prevent spam and abuse.

As for the Spurs Trust, I am one of a number of elected board members. The Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' trust was established in 2001 and has since then been a recognised group that has a regular dialogue with the club at the highest level. Our relationship with the club has at times been fractious.

We have several thousand members, who pay a subscription, and who are kept informed of our activities.

We are a democratic body, and have an AGM soon. Our members were entitled to put themselves up for election, and opportunities arise every year.

As a matter of interest, I shall be standing down this year.

The meeting with the club is one of an agreed number of meetings, although it has been delayed.

Membership to the Trust has had to be closed recently, due to administrative problems, but these should be resolved soon.

Once membership is available, there is bound to be a publicity drive and any one of you would be entitled to join, and ultimately seek election to the board.

I do NOT claim to be the number one THFC fan by any means. There are many, many far more dedicated and committed people than me, who have been following our beloved club around thw world for many years. There are also other members of the THST Board, who work far harder than me to represent the fans' views to the club hierarchy

Poshspur
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18. Poshspur Wrote: | 09.48BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to onedavemackay:

An old school friend who is a member of THFC Supporters Trust is concerned about your concerns and has asked me to pass on this message:

"The Trust is for the benefit of all true supporters of our great club but it is not practical for the members of the Trust to impart certain...

I bet you some tit will respond to that seriously...
How dare they...etc 8O

Grazza
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19. Grazza Wrote: | 09.50BST | Oct 14, 2008

Dont apologise Ginge! "Get off chest away...."

Sorry to hear you are having a tough time.

GGTH

Tony_Spursano
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20. Tony_Spursano Wrote: | 09.51BST | Oct 14, 2008

anyone want to buy a time share property in Egypt? =D


Grazza
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21. Grazza Wrote: | 09.51BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to onedavemackay:

An old school friend who is a member of THFC Supporters Trust is concerned about your concerns and has asked me to pass on this message:

"The Trust is for the benefit of all true supporters of our great club but it is not practical for the members of the Trust to impart certain...

Strong work ODM!

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22. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.55BST | Oct 14, 2008

ODM

A few points on that one:
'true supporters' - Sounds like the same old guff that Paul Smith and his Odious bunch were spouting. Talking down to the rest of us like they are part of the furniture at the club. Why can't the purpose of the supporters trust aim to communicate common questions and fears to the board.

'the word "Trust" implies there must be faith that we will work in the best interests of everyone' - How can we trust a group of people that talk down to everyone on a very frequent basis? Trust is a 2 way street and I don't feel that Paul Smith and his buddies have earnt that from any of us.

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23. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 10.24BST | Oct 14, 2008

Well hows the form every1?

great sleep last night, who need sleeping tablets when you can read peterrisdale comments zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)

imo a trust/group of people representing the views of over 100,000 fans world wide, simply doesnt work. how can a group of 100/200 people do this, its impossible? every1 has different views on even the simplist issue.

every1 just wants the best for tottenham, that is what all tru fans want, some have different ways about it.

IMO all that is needed is one website with 1 administrator, one person operating it. all that happens is that any fan can ask 3 questions at the end of the month all these questions go to Levy and answers are published on the website. (You may say time consuming with all the questions - but most questions will be the same)

all the answers will be published - so everyone can see :)

i have purchased the website

asklevy.com ;)

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24. Ginge1 Wrote: | 11.04BST | Oct 14, 2008

Reply to Paul Smith:

My attention has been drawn to this item. I fail to understand the level of abuse that I personally seem to attract, just because I run another website and one of many message boards that require people to register to prevent spam and abuse.

As for the Spurs Trust, I am one of a...

Thank you Paul - for once you seem to make a reasonable comment without sounding like an arse.

In repsonse I would say that the results of the upcoming dialogue should be made public on certain Spurs fan sites. While I appreciate we perhaps don't want the world and his dog knowing the in's and out's of our club, there are many supporters who would be keen to know the clubs views on certain issues.
As such I would say a site as well supported as HH (along with a few selected others, S.O. etc) where this information is released. Ultimately if Robert Peston can have intimate knowledge of a private / behind closed door meeting between No. 10 and the banks 5 minutes after it finishes the results of the Spurs Trust meeting will ultimately find there way onto some public forum anyway.

ps Thanks for the messages of supports fellow Spurs. ;)

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25. Ginge1 Wrote: | 11.05BST | Oct 14, 2008

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Well hows the form every1?

great sleep last night, who need sleeping tablets when you can read peterrisdale comments zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)

imo a trust/group of people representing the views of over 100,000 fans world wide, simply doesnt work. how can a group of...

I like the idea!

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26. BruceCastle Wrote: | 11.06BST | Oct 14, 2008

How to access information from the THFC Supporters Trust? Simple really. Now, before I begin the lesson, will those of you who are playing in the match this afternoon move your clothes down onto the lower peg immediately after lunch, before you write your letter home, if you're not getting your hair cut, unless you've got a younger brother who is going out this weekend as the guest of another boy, in which case, collect his note before lunch,